| Player | Game Time | Message |
|---|---|---|
| roachking | 00:05 | glgl |
| roachking | 02:53 | fun build by napkins |
| roachking | 03:13 | ghosts are actually imba lol |
| roachking | 03:22 | he's forgetting cloak |
| roachking | 03:28 | essential part of this |
| roachking | 04:10 | ghosts might be fine vs roach probably worse vs ling bane |
| roachking | 04:19 | ghosts destroy roach |
| roachking | 04:27 | people forget that ghosts are tier 1 units lol |
| roachking | 04:35 | i dont know about that |
| roachking | 04:41 | they are |
| roachking | 04:45 | how so |
| roachking | 04:47 | do you count roaches as t1 units? |
| roachking | 05:02 | pool -> roach warren |
| roachking | 05:06 | rax -> ghost academy |
| roachking | 05:09 | with roach speed i think tier two |
| roachking | 05:16 | yeah but normal roaches are t1 |
| roachking | 05:30 | ghosts are super pricey t1 units |
| roachking | 05:36 | kinda similar to ravagers |
| roachking | 05:54 | i dont know if i see it the same way |
| roachking | 06:01 | it really is the same though |
| roachking | 06:04 | ghosts are the same tech as roaches |
| roachking | 06:15 | or more accurately you could say ravager |
| roachking | 06:21 | im noticing how isn't doing shit with this |
| roachking | 06:23 | except roaches dont need a tech lab or |
| roachking | 06:37 | so you see techlab as extra tech? |
| roachking | 06:41 | yeah |
| roachking | 06:42 | as an extra tier of tech? |
| roachking | 06:46 | wouldn |
| roachking | 06:51 | then banes and roaches are t1.5 |
| roachking | 06:56 | and so would marauders be |
| roachking | 07:01 | banes with speed sure |
| roachking | 07:03 | no |
| roachking | 07:06 | banes with speed are t2 |
| roachking | 07:11 | yes |
| roachking | 07:17 | roaches and banes would be t1.5 |
| roachking | 07:17 | banes are tier two with speed |
| roachking | 07:20 | sure |
| roachking | 07:29 | so marauder would be t1.5 |
| roachking | 07:32 | sure |
| roachking | 07:45 | then i guess ghosts could be seen as t2 |
| roachking | 07:45 | stalker and adept 1.5 according to this arbitray thing |
| roachking | 07:59 | would ravagers be t2 because they require a morph then? |
| roachking | 08:14 | ravagers are closer to tier 2 in my eyes |
| roachking | 08:25 | tech in sc2 is quite complicated |
| roachking | 08:31 | lol so the highest tier unit |
| roachking | 08:33 | would be broodlord |
| roachking | 08:38 | i kind of devided it up basically according to what gas sink they are |
| roachking | 08:43 | t4.5 |
| roachking | 08:53 | late game units need a lot of gas early game units less |
| roachking | 08:57 | i see |
| roachking | 09:44 | oh god |
| roachking | 09:50 | this is such a terrible build vs ghosts |
| roachking | 10:00 | this is very high level i feel for plat inumer leage |
| roachking | 10:12 | we don |
| roachking | 10:18 | we don't know what league he actually is |
| roachking | 10:33 | i would guess mid diamond |
| roachking | 10:40 | i see |
| roachking | 10:42 | what league are you? |
| roachking | 10:46 | diamond 1 |
| roachking | 10:55 | i used to be d1 last year |
| roachking | 11:00 | currently sitting in d2 now though |
| roachking | 11:09 | nice |
| roachking | 11:23 | sc2 is a bitch you take time off and suddently your hands dont work |
| roachking | 11:32 | it's not that |
| roachking | 11:44 | i stopped playing after 5.0.15 |
| roachking | 11:53 | is that the last patch? |
| roachking | 11:56 | yeah |
| roachking | 11:59 | it put the game in a really shitty state |
| roachking | 12:09 | in diamond 2/1? |
| roachking | 12:14 | overall |
| roachking | 12:20 | and yes for me it was a really shitty state to play with |
| roachking | 12:21 | i feel zerg at low level got better in the last patch |
| roachking | 12:26 | i disagree |
| roachking | 12:31 | vipers no longer abduct tanks |
| roachking | 12:34 | i |
| roachking | 12:36 | terran turtle became really tough to break |
| roachking | 12:45 | mutalisk changes had 0 impact vs protoss and zerg |
| roachking | 12:49 | *protoss and terran |
| roachking | 12:54 | i guess but abduct i feel is a worse spell than blidnign cloud vs tanks anyways no? |
| roachking | 12:56 | they only made zvz harder because mutas suck ass outside of zvz |
| roachking | 12:59 | no |
| roachking | 13:04 | abduct is the default counter to tanks |
| roachking | 13:11 | cloud is temporary |
| roachking | 13:17 | abduct forces enemy to move where you want them |
| roachking | 13:22 | i only use blidning cloud vs terran when i play zerg anywyas |
| roachking | 13:41 | well i guess if you put it that way |
| roachking | 13:41 | becuase it gets planetaries too |
| roachking | 13:49 | they also buffed planetaries |
| roachking | 13:54 | they can attack lings while blinding clouded |
| roachking | 14:01 | before they weren't able to |
| roachking | 14:03 | was that not always true? |
| roachking | 14:05 | really |
| roachking | 14:06 | yeah |
| roachking | 14:09 | didnt know |
| roachking | 14:17 | i think morphing ravagers here is a big mistake |
| roachking | 14:21 | because they get sniped by ghosts |
| roachking | 14:38 | i don't think zerg can win this |
| roachking | 14:46 | not with his control |
| roachking | 14:58 | yeah |
| roachking | 15:00 | he keeps fighting up a ramp |
| roachking | 15:06 | into a planetry and tanks |
| roachking | 15:13 | i don't know what i would do here |
| roachking | 15:16 | maybe try to contain terran |
| roachking | 15:20 | minimize his bases |
| roachking | 15:33 | could probably kill his 4th and 3rrd |
| roachking | 15:37 | i would deny bases and ling drop/nydus lurkers |
| roachking | 15:43 | hmm |
| roachking | 15:45 | i see |
| roachking | 15:51 | that's not a bad idea |
| roachking | 15:57 | i think i would do bane drops though |
| roachking | 16:02 | but he let the third and 4th go up which was illegal |
| roachking | 16:04 | scvs can just mineral walk |
| roachking | 16:12 | banes delete scvs on the other hand |
| roachking | 17:36 | terran is like going backwards in tech |
| roachking | 17:50 | lmao |
| roachking | 17:51 | instead of maxing on lib ghost he is ghoing bio now |
| roachking | 18:00 | i think its correct call |
| roachking | 18:06 | lib ghost is more defensive |
| roachking | 18:10 | he wants to go aggressive now |
| roachking | 18:30 | i think terran needs to attack zerg with drops and libs |
| roachking | 18:35 | well it's just not worth be this agressive zerg sint broke |
| roachking | 18:37 | and zerg needs to do literally anything other than this |
| roachking | 18:54 | terran wins here |
| roachking | 18:55 | i would counteer as zerg |
| roachking | 18:57 | hydra roach suck vs marines |
| roachking | 18:59 | this is crazy |
| roachking | 19:02 | oh my god |
| roachking | 19:04 | that was awful control |
| roachking | 19:07 | the lag got him |
| roachking | 19:31 | he tried to stutterstep with 200 ping |
| roachking | 19:43 | zerg is screwed here |
| roachking | 19:46 | yeah |
| roachking | 19:56 | i think zerg needed to counter instead of ever fighting this army |
| roachking | 20:00 | terran is all in |
| roachking | 20:12 | terran still has pf to fall back to |
| roachking | 20:18 | but no eco |
| roachking | 20:23 | yeah |
| roachking | 20:46 | gg |
