| Player | Game Time | Message |
|---|---|---|
| Irathil | 00:08 | what was that? |
| Deathshead | 00:20 | i couldnt select units |
| Irathil | 00:32 | oh |
| Deathshead | 00:48 | unranked for me anyway so doesnt matter. |
| Irathil | 01:05 | well I was lucky then :P |
| Irathil | 01:14 | gl hf |
| Deathshead | 01:17 | hf |
| Irathil | 01:26 | and no more lags |
| Irathil | 01:30 | :) |
| Irathil | 20:49 | what do uthink about this type of agression? |
| Deathshead | 20:59 | ive seen it couple of times |
| Irathil | 21:00 | i failed it |
| Deathshead | 21:03 | its kinda good lol |
| Irathil | 21:08 | but |
| Deathshead | 21:11 | ive seen it in diamond |
| Deathshead | 21:17 | but you cant do that on 2 bases I think |
| Irathil | 21:29 | starting from 14pool to deny ur natural |
| Irathil | 21:34 | and SH to finish |
| Deathshead | 21:37 | yeah that was a mistake |
| Deathshead | 21:47 | i could just kill your lings |
| Irathil | 21:47 | but its quite expensive |
| Deathshead | 22:09 | SH is kinda good i think against bio |
| Irathil | 22:12 | well i had a lot of minerals banked |
| Deathshead | 22:14 | but you need another units too |
| Irathil | 22:28 | ye, some blind could be good |
| Irathil | 22:34 | bling |
| Deathshead | 22:35 | no i mean |
| Deathshead | 22:42 | some links or something |
| Deathshead | 22:47 | lings |
| Irathil | 22:50 | yeye |
| Irathil | 22:59 | but i had but not enough |
| Deathshead | 23:00 | but SH it can work |
| Deathshead | 24:00 | you need more bases to do that |
| Irathil | 24:07 | like 3? |
| Deathshead | 24:08 | i can just win anyway over time |
| Deathshead | 24:16 | because I can drop you |
| Deathshead | 24:21 | and you would have nothing |
| Irathil | 24:27 | ye, I wanted to switch to mutas |
| Deathshead | 24:33 | yeah you cant do that |
| Deathshead | 24:36 | on 2 bases |
| Deathshead | 24:46 | tech switches you need atleast 4 bases for it |
| Deathshead | 25:22 | and terran can just lift their CC and mine somewhere else while you siege |
| Deathshead | 25:24 | like me now |
| Irathil | 25:35 | i made mistake i tryed it 1st time on ranked but here i met much better people liek u who can describe me bad things |
| Irathil | 25:49 | question |
| Deathshead | 25:52 | yeah |
| Irathil | 25:54 | if i go 15 hatch |
| Irathil | 26:02 | 16 pool |
| Irathil | 26:07 | to try this out |
| Irathil | 26:30 | and you go for reapoer expand, helions, and cloack banshe |
| Deathshead | 26:31 | yeah? |
| Irathil | 26:36 | what i can do |
| Deathshead | 26:44 | if you wanted to do this? |
| Deathshead | 26:51 | and i went that? |
| Irathil | 27:14 | this or any kind of stuff, i have real trouble with this opener |
| Deathshead | 27:46 | im not sure SH are really unusuall for ZvT |
| Deathshead | 27:52 | they are expensive |
| Deathshead | 28:01 | and this was kinda succesfull because i didnt notice it |
| Deathshead | 28:05 | the nydus worm |
| Irathil | 28:22 | that was the idea |
| Deathshead | 28:53 | its really strong but I think you need to have 3 bases or 4 and kinda make a good composition of units |
| Deathshead | 29:04 | or maybe like you did now |
| Deathshead | 29:10 | that i didnt scouted it |
| Deathshead | 29:13 | then it can work |
| Deathshead | 29:22 | but only SH overtime isnt good |
| Deathshead | 29:27 | terran can just wait and get tanks |
| Deathshead | 29:29 | on high ground |
| Irathil | 29:29 | well there are many ways to hide nydus |
| Irathil | 29:41 | problem is |
| Irathil | 30:16 | :D |
| Irathil | 30:21 | ]anyway |
| Deathshead | 30:24 | im not sure what do say lol |
| Deathshead | 30:30 | SH is a good choice but |
| Deathshead | 30:34 | people need to figure it out |
| Irathil | 30:35 | how to deal with banshee expand? |
| Deathshead | 30:36 | hwo to use it |
| Deathshead | 30:41 | well |
| Deathshead | 30:45 | scout it? |
| Deathshead | 30:49 | and make spores |
| Irathil | 31:04 | ye but main problem i face |
| Irathil | 31:06 | is that |
| Irathil | 31:14 | my 3rd dies |
| Deathshead | 31:26 | too many hellions hmm |
| Deathshead | 31:38 | around 6-7 min always make a roach waren |
| Irathil | 31:38 | a lot of helions def agaisnt quens and lings and banshed likk 3rd |
| Deathshead | 31:45 | and make around 6-8 roaches |
| Deathshead | 31:46 | only |
| Deathshead | 31:56 | that is enough |
| Irathil | 32:21 | so roahces |
| Irathil | 32:25 | roaches* |
| Deathshead | 32:27 | ofc lol |
| Deathshead | 32:37 | all zergs should make a roach waren |
| Deathshead | 32:38 | for defense |
| Deathshead | 32:47 | for many helions |
| Irathil | 32:53 | hmm preaty simple but i ddint though of it beceuse |
| Irathil | 33:13 | roaches are not so much used in ZvT |
| Irathil | 33:27 | maby should be vs mech |
| Deathshead | 33:37 | I didnt say to make them |
| Irathil | 33:38 | but vs mech i always try SH/muta |
| Irathil | 33:42 | yeye |
| Deathshead | 33:45 | i just said make 6 roaches |
| Deathshead | 33:47 | to defend |
| Irathil | 34:00 | but when I watch "pro matches" they def with only lings |
| Irathil | 34:15 | only sometimes |
| Deathshead | 34:41 | yeah because they have good ling controll |
| Deathshead | 34:44 | and suround |
| Irathil | 35:16 | but still its hard to kill like this around 8-10 helions |
| Deathshead | 35:29 | but at plat i think making 6 roaches is definitely okay |
| Irathil | 35:54 | :D |
| Deathshead | 35:56 | well you need to suround them |
| Deathshead | 36:01 | and not to clump them |
| Deathshead | 36:07 | its kinda hard |
| Deathshead | 36:09 | and you have queens |
| Deathshead | 36:12 | so that helps |
| Irathil | 36:21 | its very hard near mineral lines |
| Irathil | 36:36 | i mean i feel like imposible |
| Deathshead | 37:12 | just make those roaches and it will be fine...or if you want practice ling controll with surounds |
| Deathshead | 37:19 | 6 roaches |
| Deathshead | 37:20 | or even 4 |
| Deathshead | 37:55 | but |
| Deathshead | 38:31 | you cant do much from there just practice and practice |
| Deathshead | 38:34 | my main race was zerg |
| Irathil | 39:05 | why did u change? |
| Deathshead | 39:12 | because zerg is hard :P |
| Deathshead | 39:16 | but its a fun race |
| Irathil | 39:33 | last question |
| Irathil | 39:51 | why some ppl |
| Deathshead | 39:57 | and dont move out with your lings |
| Irathil | 40:01 | recommend to play roach hydra vs mech |
| Deathshead | 40:08 | because its good |
| Deathshead | 40:12 | with blinding coulds |
| Deathshead | 40:18 | hydras got buff |
| Deathshead | 40:25 | its even good against bio |
| Deathshead | 40:30 | like REALLY good |
| Deathshead | 40:36 | if terran doesnt have tanks |
| Irathil | 40:41 | ye ik but when i try I its |
| Irathil | 40:45 | hmm |
| Irathil | 40:56 | difficult? |
| Irathil | 40:58 | i mean |
| Deathshead | 41:07 | you just need practice :D |
| Irathil | 41:08 | with upgrades and/ormines |
| Irathil | 41:23 | bio i think beats roach/hydra |
| Deathshead | 41:25 | that composition is only good to a certain time |
| Irathil | 41:29 | and viper comes late |
| Deathshead | 41:42 | roach hydra is really strong and bio alone cant defeat it |
| Deathshead | 41:51 | at mid game |
| Deathshead | 42:03 | without tanks |
| Deathshead | 42:04 | so gl |
